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I caught the male singing to the female this morning - no idea if this is normal mating behaviour but at least no feathers flying.
Emmy
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I'm beginning to think my Madagascar Lovebirds are not in love.
I've tried several different types of nest boxes - given a variety of different nesting materials ( they let me know they didn't approve of any of them- tossed everything straight out from the nest box.)
Things I have tried over a long period of time:
Had all 4 together in large cage so they could choose their own partner- didn't work
Then paired them off into two separate cages- didn't work
Was suggested to put two males with one female - didn't work
Also suggested to try the reverse two females with one male- didn't work
So this is what I'm trying now similar to what you do with canaries but I added another 'stage' in the process.
About 6 weeks ago I put the two pairs in a breeding cage that had a divider and I put the two females in one half and the two males in the other half
I made sure there was a perch on either side close to the divider and they have been using those perches more than the others that were in the cage.
Today I have separated them and used a 2nd breeding cage so now there is only one female and one male in a cage but the divider still in place with a perch on each side close to the divider.
I intend to leave them like his for about a week I don't expect the male will feed the female as canaries do but time will tell.
I would like your opinion re should I add a nest box to the female's side of the cage just now or wait until I remove the divider. ?
At the moment one pair is sitting facing each other while in the 2nd cage the female is sitting with her back to the male - maybe she's trying to tell him to 'get lost'!
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
This is the pair that seem to be 'talking' (lol)
Emmy
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Trevor ---Meantime The Tablet is for ME!!!!! they get offered enough treats and turn their 'beaks' up at them -so no tablet for them just now but great suggestion Trevor I'll tell them if they produce some chicks they'll get a whole bar of tablet to themselves.
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41 minutes ago, Freddie finch said:do you have many zebras?
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Guess I've lost count but I reckon there could be about 30 in outside/inside flights. and I have others in cages in my other shed for selected breeding. I have some 'penguins too and a couple of crested zebra finches which I will later pair up with other finches.
I also have cockatiels ,canaries, diamond doves, Bengalese, gouldians, owl finches etc and a few chinese painted quail. (Better not forget the one budgie I just couldn't resist at one of the bird sales lol). I would have posted some photos but I've just recently got a new computer and unfortunately my brain didn't get updated at the same time and I've still to find the prog. where I can resize the photos so I can upload them on here. (Sometimes I've been lucky and managed to get one posted)
Wishing you well with the pair you have.
Emmy
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Thanks Trevor guess my patience is a bit thin on the ground at the moment. One of the first jobs though is to sort out the Madagascar lovebirds to try to get them to breed. Trying out what I did with canaries. At the moment I've got the 4 of them in a breeding cage -the two females together -two males together separated with a divider. Next move will be one female and one male in a breeding cage separated with a divider then after about a week + I'll remove the divider - Still haven't made up my mind if I'll put a nest box up on the females side of the cage before I remove the divider or what type of nesting material to offer. I've tried so many different things over the past 2 years but still to find the answer - if only they could talk and tell me what they want
Emmy
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Welcome to the forum Freddie. What colour are the two birds you have?
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Fantastic Trevor when its a bit bigger can you train it to fly North ?
That's going to be a wee beauty. and a definite 'keeper' Next year is going to be very interesting for you
(Now ME! I've got a zebra finch in my outside flight I'd like to catch its a pale fawn with peach coloured cheeks but it has ideas of its own and wants to choose its own partner.)
Emmy
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Think a lot of breeders had this problem recently
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Know how you must be feeling Matrtin. It may have been it ate too much of the cake and it couldn't digest it.
I bought a new sand/grit with aniseed in it recently and used it in the bottom of my cockatiel's cage but it proved a disaster because my lovely wee cockatiel Bimbo had started to scoop it up and swallow it (he had a bad beak and had to get it trimmed regularly- so his bottom beak was getting used like a shovel) I found him dead next morning and its tummy was swollen with what he had eaten and couldn't digest it.
So we all make mistakes Martin and we learn from them BUT it hurts like mad when we lose one of our wee friends when we think it was our fault.
I don't think your other bird was guilty of anything - but I have always found when they look ill the best thing you can do is keep them warm and quiet and make sure they get fluid even if it means giving them a few drops using either a syringe or a cocktail stick. Coconut water (Not coconut milk) is good for this acts as an electrolyte. Another good thing to have is this product 'Guardian Angel' (it can be given on food or in water) and is good to give when a bird is stressed http://birdcareco-shop.com/bird-supplements/cage-and-aviary-bird-products/sick-bird-products/guardian-angel/ this is the firm I buy it from.
Re the Guardian -angel product here is an example : Two days ago I found one of my finches had been getting attacked with the other one that was in the cage with him - its head was bleeding and its side as well and it was stressed out. He was sitting all puffed up. I brought it into the house and bathed the cuts then applied Savlon cream and I mixed up the measured amount of Guardian-angel into its water fountain. The cage was in a warm place and I put a cover over part of the cage. The next morning it was up pecking seed and egg food. I'm still keeping it in the house until its wounds are all healed but its looking OK now..
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2nd egg (fostered) I put into their nest has hatched out and they are feeding the new chick too- now just waiting for their own eggs to hatch.
Emmy
(sold some diamond doves today and also finches)
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That's great news Dave. Are you keeping any of them?
Sadly little Toots died- I had it at the vet to get its crop emptied and it seemed as thought it would be OK but it died the next morning but Titch and Tosh are doing OK and are out of the brooder now, but still not feeding by themselves yet. definitely keeping those two
Bird sale tomorrow and I'm taking 3 diamond doves and maybe some finches but it will depend how I feel about parting with them when tomorrow is here (lol)
Remember 'Shadow' the zebra finch I hand reared a while ago well not only do 'Shadow and Snowy' have 4 eggs in their swing nest (lol) but I've managed to put a tiny zebra finch chick which hatched out in the incubator this morning into their nest and also the 2nd egg from the incubator which is about to hatch too and they are definitely feeding the wee chick and they haven't tossed out the other egg either. Fingers crossed it works out!
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Back to the 3 new arrivals -- Titch, Tosh and Toots. this is them now.
Their eyes seem to be a bit slow in opening so every time they get fed I have bathed their eyes with lukewarm water and its helping = I'm noticing a difference every day.
Guess these three are going to be some more 'keepers'
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Must apologise to Springy for going off on a tangent and away from the topic originally posted.
Emmy
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After reading all the make believe things that was on offer I just realised I have actually bought one of the things put up as a 'joke'
New on the market- Rocking nest baskets to keep newly hatched chicks happy while you're away from the nest feeding
I do have a photo of this (needs to be resized) and it was sold as a swing but a pair of mine made it into a nest and laid 4 eggs in it and it was funny to see them sitting on the eggs and having a swing at the same time. (lol wonder if any of our other ideas will be on actual offer soon (lol)
Emmy
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Thanks Andy that's the one!! We did have some fun and laughs with that post,
I enjoyed reading that again.
This is no joke-- I saw an 'egg grabber' think it was in Supapets web site. Looks like a pair of tweezers but it has two loops on the end and its for lifting eggs from a nest. Tried to post the photo but its one that's too large and needs to be resized
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Thanks Andy Think this will be the best thing for me.
Emmy
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Hi Dave, I think they do this deliberately just to annoy me. I'm leaving it up to them now to decide who will win.
Here's another example
Tonight I've had to bring in a little finch that had just fledged reason: - Just recently I had put a Texan White female quail into the outside flight ( I had asked around if it would be ok to do this and it seems lots of people have those quails in beside other birds and everything was OK) But when I was in the outside flight tonight (which was fortunate for the wee chick ) I caught the Texan White quail pecking the chick's head. I reckon if I hadn't been there it would have killed the chick. So I've bathed the wee chick's head and put Savlon on it and its had some hand rearing formula and is now sleeping.
('Debi' the hand raised Texan White Quail is going back into her hutch)
(This is the little chick (no name yet )
Emmy
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That and others think you put up something like 'birdie dental mirrors so they could see to preen in hidden places -something like that-- hair spray for crested finches etc etc.
I know it was on the old site.
Emmy
(Could do with a laugh right now when I was closing the boot of my car the other day I happened to look up and as it was closing it hit the bridge of my nose and now I've a black & blue nose and two nice dark eyes-- lot better now though--but still could do with a laugh
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How much does a memory stick hold Andy? I have a LOT of photo folders and also Microsoft Word documents- Grandson said it would take about 6 hours to transfer the photos but I'm thinking he may be 'pulling my leg' saying that
Emmy
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In my outside flight I have a variety of birds and nesting areas are available to them all.
I have had diamond doves sitting beside zebra finches in nest baskets before but this time they have taken another step forwards.
They are laying eggs and sharing a nest. First nest had one Diamond dove egg and several zebra finch eggs. \when the Finch came off the nest the Diamond dove took over both finches took turns on the nest.
Few days later I found a diamond dove had laid 2 eggs in another nest --then along came a zebra finch and laid eggs in that nest too.
Difficult to believe but its true there is now a third nest with both diamond dove and finches eggs in it.
Yesterday I did swap the eggs so it would be only diamond eggs in one nest and finch eggs in the other nest but the 3rd nest with both Diamond dove and finch eggs in it I've had to leave as it is.
(Other photos I had taken will have to be resized I'll post them later)
"Come on -Get Off it's my turn now!
(Tried to delete a previous post same subject but didn't work this is an update of that previous post)
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10 hours ago, Lagosuchus said:You know, I've been into other forums and in some of them "resurrecting" old posts isn't liked very much
I have resurrected old post many times in the past - sometimes just to remind others of very funny ones that were created just for a laugh and some to pass on information as you did with yours --- let's face it no matter how much experience or knowledge from reading about our wee feathered friends not one of us knows everything (and I'll own up and don't remember everything)
(If I can find the funny post I'll put a link to it - think the title was something like 'A New Web Site for Birds' but it was on the older version of the forum.
(Maybe Andy can help find it -he posted in it too )
Emmy
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Many Thanks for that Andy, Once grandson finishes 'tweaking'. between both computers I'll try that. At the moment we're having a ''discussion'' ?? (he doesn't know it yet but I'm going to WIN lol) I want ALL my photos transferred to the new computer - he says it will slow my new computer down. He's probably correct BUT I need access to all of them.
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I think I should be sending a pair of my zebra finches and a pair of my diamond doves to 'Specsavers' to get their eyes tested.
This is what is happening in two nests in my outside flight-
1st mistake they made- both laid an egg in the same nest and one of the finches and one of the diamond doves sat together in the nest starting to incubate the eggs
Diamond dove then decided to set up another nest BUT now in this 2nd nest there's the Diamond doves eggs and guess what? The finch has laid an egg in that nest too.
Now I have a pair of finches incubating their own eggs plus a diamond dove egg and the diamond dove is incubating its own eggs plus a finch egg.
I know I need to switch the eggs but part of me would like to know what the finches would do if they hatched out that Diamond dove's egg and likewise what reaction the diamond dove would have to hatching out a very tiny baby ( Must try to take some photographs of this tomorrow (lol) before I do the swap.)
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Lee your just jealous - me I'm frustrated with the M. L. Bs !!!
I've still not managed to breed a BC CFW and I'm not going to resort to doctoring photographs but from somewhere I've bred a BCBB zebra finch -wished it had been a female and I would have paired it up with a crested bb z finch.
I was just hoping someone would read the post about the love birds and may have bred M.L.birds or knew someone who had and would give me some feed back if they had had success. I suppose the fact that one of the males is singing to the female is a good sign.
Freezing here tonight - birds are warmer in their sheds than I am in the house
PS Lee please note this is posted in the proper place: