ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 hi i have just brought 4 pheo's should be 2 hen's and 2 cock bird's the male's have complete orange heads,the hen's are sort of plain which i expected,i have just noticed on the hen's a very slight orange cheek patch like you would find with a normal zeb cock bird,is that correct or are they a young cock bird,i will post some photo's when i get home thank's steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 cannot seem to upload photos at the moment it keep saying file to big i've tried photobucket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebraman 267 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Hi Steve, you need to resize your photos to 640x480 before you can upload them onto the forum, if you already have them in Photobucket you can resize them directly from there. If you need any more help just let me know. Gary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 thank you gary it has worked 2nd photo not as good but you can see the head colouring of the cock bird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norn iron birdman 3 Report post Posted August 22, 2012 They are 2 hens and 2 cocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 thank you for your reply they are now starting to make nests so fingers crossed steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 Hi Steve Is one of the cock birds orange on the chest as in the second photo the back cock looks like it. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 hi paul yes he has got some orange on his chest steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 Hi Steve I wonder if he has Orange breast going on as well as i it looks like it in that photo if you can post one of him showing chest, those hens could be as well have a look at their tales for orange tints to the feathers. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 hi paul some one else told me he might be orange breast as well,i will try and take a photo of him if he sit's still long enough,all this genetics stuff is new to me,so what colours can i expect with any young i get. steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted August 23, 2012 Hi Steve Do you know if they are unrelated i only ask as they are all the same mutation there or there abouts, if you pair them and there is orange breast in them as well you well get a selection Pheo cocks and hens "Black Breast,Fawn,Isabels" some split Orange breast as well And Orange Faced Pheo Cocks and Hens "Orange Breasted,Black Breasted,Fawn, Isabels". Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 24, 2012 hi paul when i brought them i got them from a bird dealer she said the birds she had brought came from 2 different suppliers,but the leg rings the same colour on both cock birds so i would say they are from the same person can you recommend a good book on zebra finch mutations for me and thanks for all your help steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted August 24, 2012 Hi Steve Here's a very useful tool for breeding expectations http://zebrafinch.info/colours/genex.asp And also on the ZFF website the genetics page is useful but a few of the Lightback X Cfw Breeding results are wrong. Hope this helps Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted August 24, 2012 thank you paul it will be very helpfull steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted September 10, 2012 hi all i had a look in one of the nest's this morning and there looks to be at least 3 chicks at the moment and a couple more egg's in there so hopefully i will have some nice chick's also for future reference what other colour when pair with a phaeo would give me some nice chick's steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted September 10, 2012 Hi Steve When you don't pair phaeo to phaeo you will produce split birds as the mutations that make up a phaeo are recessive and needs two birds with them either in visual form or split to produce them, check out the genetic calculator to see what i mean. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted September 10, 2012 hi paul i was having a read on acadiana aviaries web site and it said phaeo's are a very important part of the ingredient used in creating a number of other desirable combinations so i was wondering what were the best colours to use with them i have had a quick look on the genetic calculator,i will stick to just pairing phaeo to phaeo for now thanks steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted September 11, 2012 Hi Steve if that cock you have is more orange than a Normal Phaeo then he will have BF or Orange breast in him as well as the mutations that make up a phaeo so he would be a good starting point if its the more orange birds your after, can you place a photo of him on here. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave.H 11 Report post Posted September 11, 2012 Working to combine multiple colours such as Orangebreast blackbreast blackface Isabel will make them more colourful. Phaeos are tat least blackbreast Isabel Like Paul said 1 maybe blackface or split or full orangebreast too. Hens are harder to tell and ud need both carrying several mutations to combine all 4 colours. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted September 11, 2012 hi paul i will try to get a photo of him but he spends most of his time in the nest Phaeos are tat dave i did'nt think they were that bad :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave.H 11 Report post Posted September 11, 2012 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 hi paul i managed to take some photo's of the cock bird not very good quality but you can see the chest area steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 Hi Steve He appears to be orange breasted as well as Isabel, Black Breast and Fawn. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssteves 51 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 hi paul thank you for that i can't wait for the chick's to get their feather's,i think the other hen is might be sitting on egg's now,she is alway's in the nest when i go in the shed i can't see in the nest box as there is a conifer branch in front of the nest to give her privacy where tho other one has laid the egg's in a outside nest box steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
