Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted February 22, 2013 hi all! please help me identify these cocks. i bred them myself. The first 3 pics are of the same cock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh lake 17 Report post Posted February 22, 2013 I would say the first 3 is a cock at the front. The last one i think is a hen. because it doesnt have no flanks.Nor colored cheek patches. Josh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh lake 17 Report post Posted February 22, 2013 Although looking at the beak, Could be a male (Last one) Josh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted February 23, 2013 First cock looks to be a Silver Black cheek and the other looks like a hen strange colouring,although its wing is down and it looks to be missing some of its feathering around the leg and flank, you can get the odd cock missing cheeks but a hen with some chest barring is more common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted February 23, 2013 hi all josh i already know that whats a cock and a hen! lol, what i meant was which variety of cock it is. still thankyou:) paul i think u r right about the cock, it is a silver black cheek, although its cheeks are grey. with which hen should i breed the silver black cheek with to get the same kind of cocks? and the last cock is surely a male, it does have flanks, but they are few and very pale orange.its breeding with a fawn hen and they are already incubating the eggs. can u predict what will the offsprings look like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted February 23, 2013 isnt the last cock a silver dominant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted February 23, 2013 HI In silver the black marking are usually diluted to a shade of grey this is why silver and cream are called dominant dilute mutations as they dilute the colour of the bird. Get a few more shots of that last bird it looks a lot like a hen with some cock markings which you do get but im not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy747 25 Report post Posted March 8, 2013 Looks very much like one of my males which PaulM described as a silver cock below! :- Scott 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy747 25 Report post Posted March 8, 2013 ooops. forgot the 'black cheek' silver! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted March 8, 2013 Hi There Mr finch Sure looks like a silver black cheek. but the bottom bird im not sure if it is a cock looks like ahen to me could be wrong mind. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 hi all, Scott your cock is almost exactly the same like mine. What were its parents? My cock was a result of normal black cheek X Normal black cheek. Paul the last cock wasn't developed fully in the pic, i didnt know its age, but now it has fully developed its colors and has got full light brown flanks and chest bar lines. What kind of a cock has a yellow cheek? this one has a yellow cheek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 Hi If your cock was bred from a Normal black cheek X Normal black cheek and your sure of this it could be your silver Black cheek cock is a Recessive silver and not dominate as is found in the uk normally now, that or one of his parents is a dark silver bird. Yellow cheeks could it be a dark lightback ?. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy747 25 Report post Posted March 12, 2013 sorry mister finch, my cock silver bc was bought in with no history of parents. Got a lovely silver hen from it though. Great bird. Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted April 10, 2013 i wish i had a hen like this so that i could breed it with my silver balck cheek cock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skm 5 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Silver BC are very common in Pakistan and Lahore as well.They are available in local and imported breed as well. They are a bit expense than Fawn BC but far cheaper than CFW BC and locally called as Isabel BC. So good luck for your hunt for Silver BC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 thanks for the info skm:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 hi all i have posted latest pictures of the male which i posted earlier. This cock is mature now and the pictures are better. so people help me to identify this cock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Hi, That male in question i think is a BC grey Isabel. Now it's weird because skm has said that silvers are called Isabels. could be a mix up here, that's why i think it's a BB Grey Isabel. Plus there's also a mention of the male being bred by Norm BC x Norn BC, if it's silver no way can this be silver due to it being a dominant colour, but it could be possible that it's a isabel if both parents are split for Isabel. Just my theory, Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Hi again, Your latest pic's look to be a Lightback (male) this also can come from the mentioned pairing. Hope this helps, Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skm 5 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 The male in the latest pic shared by Mister Finch could be a recessive light back silver. These kind of males pop up in breeding LB. This is definitle not a BC. However, he seems to be split for BB due to hour glass tail marking and extended white lores. @Trevor: Silver BC are called Isabel BC here in Pakistan. This is not the correct explaination but has become the name name here for the males shared by Mister Finch in the top 3 pics of the first post and the female sharer by Scott in post # 13. Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy747 25 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 i wish i had a hen like this so that i could breed it with my silver balck cheek cock I wish I hadn't posted this pic :-(. Fate dealt me a cruel blow and i lost this bird last week. gutted not the word! Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 Scott, Really sorry to hear this, it's always the case. My pied male in my gallery and my BBCFW male have both died and i only had one of each. Hopefully you can breed the same pair and get some more. All the best Scott, Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Finch 2 Report post Posted September 16, 2013 My Silver BC in the first three pics of the post has died it hadn't bred yet and his old mother has escaped as well. The male whose pics are in post number 17 got stolen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
