Thank for all the responce its good to know that there is someone that I can ask for advise when I need it. I will put the light on untill about 10pm like you said. A bit of bad news this morning one of the chick fell out of the nest. The hen is a bit inexperienced and seems to have lost interest in the nest and only sits on at night. I have another three birds in the avery two male pied choc bangalese and one white female bangalese that have paired up and is sitting on 8 eggs, I know 8 eggs. The three of them sitt on the eggs at night and take turns during the daytime. They are strange little birds to watch compaired to the zebra finches. I think the female has laid 4 eggs for each male. Do you think if they hatch I should remove some of the eggs or will they cope with them all. The zebras are last years brood and the bangalese this years birds. I got them from the Carlise sale. I missed a bird show at Irvine last weekend. I live by myself and sometime donot keep to well. So I could not attend.