zebbie007 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 Hi all, I bought these 2 cocks in the local pet shop today. They are not massive birds but stood out from the others they have. 1 of these has a slightly overshot beak which I have trimmed and will keep an eye on. What colour are they.... Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janetdange 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 They are beautiful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 Hello They are Fawn Isabels and one does look like it may be split Black breast, it has elongated flank spots and the orange in the cheeks seems to leak outside the normal cheek positon. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zebbie007 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 Thank you Paul. I am guessing you are thinking the one on the right is split black breast? His cheek patch and flankings are a lot more intense than the other one. What would be my outcomes here if they were paired to Fawn Hens? Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy747 25 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 Hi Paul My instant reaction was Florida fancy for the bird on the left. I would assume you to be correct with your description, so, out of curiosity......whats the diference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted October 17, 2012 Hi Scott I'm not really up much on Florida Fancy's but what i do know is the Florida Fancy is co-dominant meaning it has Single and Double factor birds with the double factor birds being much lighter and the black "Eumelanin" is much more reduced than in the Single factor birds. The Isabel mutation belongs to the Recessive group of mutations and has splits and visual birds. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pip 2 Report post Posted October 18, 2012 Fawn Isabels is what i would say with bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted October 18, 2012 Hi Pip Close but not full BB one may be a split as it shows signs of BB in the cheeks and flanks, a full BB bird would have a lot more orange cheek extension to the back and top of the head also bits of orange to differing amounts on the wings and back. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pip 2 Report post Posted October 18, 2012 its the side bits look more like a bb to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted October 18, 2012 Hi Pip Signs of BB are often seen in split birds such as the flank marks in the right hand bird in the photo,even BB split hens can show signs of ghost flank as well as other signs of being split BB. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave huntington 94 Report post Posted October 18, 2012 the bird on the left is quite a smart looking bird i would pair him to good fawn hen with small beak quite like that mutation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
