Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark1e 67 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Hi PhilippeWhat a nice colour off bird that is i am not shore what colour pastel is here in UK is it cream lightback blackface or am i showing my ignorance i don't NO this is first one i have seen on this site,But the colour is what i would like to breed cream blackface or cream blackcheek anyway very nice looking mutation,sorry if i have got colour wrong,mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 No it is not cream but Grey.The female on the ground is a Grey lightback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Philippe, Good pic's, i like your male lovely coloured bird different tail markings as well.Mark, I think pastel is the type, i don't think it's another name for one of our types not 100% though.Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Yes pastel dominant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete 21 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Pastel is the same as silver, the cock is a silver lightback blackface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark1e 67 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Even thou i might be wrong in colour with the cock bird that grey lightback hen she has lovely tear markings wish i can produce some markings like that well done philippe,mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helen 4 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 Sorry but i dont know the genetics or colours but he is a nice looking bird, not seen one those colours before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 11, 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TYRONEl 2 Report post Posted January 11, 2012 Really like this mutation ,may i ask the best way to achieve from scratch -eg-silver cock x lightback hen?how to get blackface part,i would like to give a try at this mut if poss.Would appreciate any tips at all. Ty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted January 11, 2012 Ty, How are you keeping hope you've got things sorted and up and running, that hen i got off you is paired up only been a few days gone.To answer your question:-BF(male) x Silver (hen)25% Silver (SF) Black face (SF) 25% Black face (SF) 25% Silver (SF) 25% Normal Silver (male) x BF (hen)25% Normal 25% Black face (SF) 25% Silver (SF) 25% Silver (SF) Black face (SF) Hope this helps, i've put pairing reversed as well no difference but thought i'd still show you as an example.Trevor :)ps, Will you be at Newark? i'll be at same place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave.H 11 Report post Posted January 11, 2012 Then following on from trev Pair a lightback cock to a Bf silver hen Will produce lightback Bf silver hens And split lightback Bf silver cocks If you had 2 unrelated pairs then cross over split cock x full hen Or cross split cock x lightback hen And you'll get full in both sexes Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TYRONEl 2 Report post Posted January 11, 2012 Thats brilliant guys,thank you very much,looks like im gonna have to get a blackface cock now. Trevor probably will be going to newark so see you there mate,ive got several birds paired up now some with eggs so see how we go ,good luck with the hen hope she does good, Ty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2012 The most important thing is to find good quality birds.This bird is a mutation combinations (4)The mutation wild greyThe sex-linked mutation lightback grey.Until here all is well but then come the dominant mutations.The pastel and blackface a two percent chance of escape.And that's where the difficulty is.It's not as simple as having to write it on paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted January 12, 2012 Philippe, Have you a photo of a hen Lightback Grey Blackface Pastel, you often see what males look like but i would like to see a hen of this type please.Thank you!Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 The two females on the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 Good photo you can see the body colouring filling in the white between the tear and the beak and the colour extended down further towards the vent.Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulm 119 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 Heres a Drawning of a Silver Lightback Bf cock i got from a friend.Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 Beautiful design, superb representation of the mutation.Congratulations to your friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helen 4 Report post Posted January 22, 2012 Really nice drawing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philippe BRUNET 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2012 Another bird of my breeding World Champion in 2011 in Tours (France) 93pts.Philippe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
