dean 9 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 hi all. me and colly was thinking can you have a crested penguin???? if so how do you get one.. we both keep penguins and normal crested zebs. cheers dean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colly 6 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 Good question Dean it will be interesting to see the answer on this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jugglerjeff 45 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 you sure can ..i sold one at stafford last march ...it was a hen ,really good crest like a gloster canary ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jugglerjeff 45 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 i guess to make one is to put a crested to a normal penguin you'd probably get normal looking zebs of which some would be crested also split penguin then put one of the those crested chicks to another line of penguins and i think you might end up with a crested penguin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 Dean/Colly, He we go:- Cr Normal x Normal Pen 50% Normal/Penguin 50% Crested (SF) /Penguin Now if you run 2 or more lines you then breed Normal / Pen x Cr Normal / Pen:- 25% Crested (SF) /Penguin 12.5% Penguin 12.5% Crested (SF) Penguin 25% Normal/Penguin 12.5% Crested (SF) 12.5% Normal Hope this is ok, If not sure i will try to explain a bit more. Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colly 6 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Dean it sounds like a plan to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean 9 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 thank you for that... they really do sound nice... deffo sounds like a plan colin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri 1 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Jugglerjeff: put a crested to a normal penguin.... then put one of the those crested chicks to another line of penguins Hi Dean, I think the most suitable mating has been indicated above by Jugglerjeff. Jeff's plan could give you a crested penguin in one or two rounds (1/4) and you will know the exact genetics of each offspring, while Trev's plan could give you a crested penguin after ages (1/8) and the genetics of all the ng chicks will be unknown until you "test" them with a penguin partner. ciao Dimitri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jugglerjeff 45 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 who's the daddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean 9 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 you the daddy lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean 9 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 me and colly deffo going to try and breed some this year .... :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolk flyer 208 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Dimitri, What they are aiming at are Cr Penguins, so if they continue to pair Cr Norm with Penguin 1st time around, they will get the pairs for getting 12.5% Cr penguin in the second year. Any other young produced in the 2nd round are not needed. More pairs set for the 2nd season brings the odds down. That's why I said 2 or more pairs. Hope I've made myself a bit more clearer. All the best for 2013, Trevor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2013 Hi Trev, you have been clear enough, perhaps I have been not, let my try to explain better: your mating Cr split penguin x split penguin gives,in theory, 1 crested penguin out of 8 chicks. This is a rather low percentage, you could need no less then two full clutches to get only one "good" chick. Consider also that the ng chicks (both crested and not crested) produced from this mating could be split for penguin as well as they could not, so you could be in the need to use them in the following season to produce more crested penguins but you won't know which one is split and which one is not... what will you do? The mating proposed by Jeff Cr split penguin x penguin gives, again in theory, 1 crested penguin out of 4 chicks, that's to say you have good chance to hit the target already within the first clutch. And eventually, all the ng chicks produced (both crested and not crested) will be sure split for penguin, so if you need some split penguin to produce more crested penguins (or for example, one split parent could die) you can chose any of them and be sure of the results. I like to know perfectly what I have in my cages and breeding "possibly split" x "possibly split" is always a waste of room and time. That's why the best plan is first year Crested x penguin and second year Crested split penguin x penguin. When dealing with recessive mutation, split x split is the "last chance" mating, when only split birds are available, split x full is much better. Just my 2 cents. Of course, Dean could also pair a crested split penguin x split penguin and get 3 crested penguins chicks already in the first clutch... who can tell? That's the fun side of the hobby all the best to you too ciao Dimitri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites